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I've had this malady for 20 years, and it's awful, caused by lot's of trigger foods, beverages, etc. I've given up my love affair with beer, one of the main culprits, but now appears I'll have to switch from coffee to tea, and NO SODA!!!

Red meat also a no no. I've been on medication for years, but still have flair ups. I'm also increasing my water intake. The medicines i've been on have terrible gastric side effects, and the steroids cause weight gain, and long term damage too.

Just wondering if anyone else has any advice/tips on the subject.

PS I'ts a very painful form of arthritis, and the latest episode is in my right knee and has rendered me almost unable to walk.

I'm also buying concentrated cherry juice, as it's an organic anti-inflammatory.


 
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G'day Charles.

My brother suffered from gout years ago. David is now 64. He suffered gout from the age of around 19 for quite a few years. It was described by the doctor in those days as a build up of uric acid in the system and he reckoned it caused crystals in the joints, which sounds a lot like the inflammation of arthritis you describe. It sounds excruciating and that certainly seemed to be my brother's experience. He seemed to grow out of it and these days it is just a memory. I hope your doctor can help you to manage the condition. It sure sounds like a painful one that demands many adjustments to one's lifestyle. I wish I could be of service to you, mate. (In fact, I wish I was of some use to someone ... anyone. I am clinging to my father's affirmation that I could always serve as a bad example.)


Your mate in The Land Down Under,

Grahame.

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If you will Google Mayo Clinic, you get a lot of information about gout.. My boss had a flare up and it was extremely painful for him..




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Chazz:
There is a strong liklihood that more people have gout than will acknowledge it. There is a certain connotation about the word that seems undesirable. Not sophisticated or fashionable. But then what disease is? Afterall, gout really is just a type of arthritis. It was originally termed the disease of Kings because of their over indulgence of rich foods. A few years ago this distardly ailment paid me an unwelcome visit. I do not know where it came from as there is no family history of it. It was difficult to diagnose causing a couple of years of excruciating pain. It affecting sleeping, walking, sitting, and overall quality of life. Attempts to rise from a chair were so painful many times it brought tears. Finally, the culprit for me was discovered to be red meat. Since water is my beverage of choice, alcohol was no problem. You would be surprised how many ways chicken can be served that are totally delicious. I do take allopurinol daily. Colchicine is also helpful if you have a severe attack. Apple cider vinegar is also a deterrent. This is not a problem unless I occasionally fall off the wagon and indulge in red meat. I now refrain from doing this as the indulgence is not worth the pain it causes. Colonel Sanders and I will stick with chicken! I have been pain free several years. In fact, a couple of years ago I spent two very enjoyable days walking, and more walking, the grounds of Disneyland without any pain whatsover.

This is not a subject that I enjoy sharing, but am doing so with the hope it will help you and any others that may suffer from this affliction. For me, there has definitely been a cure. It is always lurking in the background if you do not show it proper respect by watching your diet. No problem or cxomplaint, as we should all watch our diet anyway, should we not?
 
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thanks junebug, I took allopurinol too, until I had side effects after going to 300mg a day. So I switched to probenicid. There's a new drug called uloric, but even with my insurance (which is fairly good) it's over 78 dollars a month!!!
Thanks for the tips, and understanding, the first time I had a flare, i thought i had broken a bone in my foot or something, it's that bad.

Charles


 
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Originally posted by Patsy Elmore:
If you will Google Mayo Clinic, you get a lot of information about gout.. My boss had a flare up and it was extremely painful for him..


Thanks Patsy, I'll look into it, very thoughtful and kind of you. I'm looking into all the things I'm not supposed to have now, including breafast, SIGH no more biscuits and gravy, as it has three trigger foods,(bread, gravy, and sausage) Depressed already LOL

Thanks for the info though
Charles


 
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Thanks Patsy, I'll look into it, very thoughtful and kind of you. I'm looking into all the things I'm not supposed to have now, including breafast, SIGH no more biscuits and gravy, as it has three trigger foods,(bread, gravy, and sausage) Depressed already LOL

Thanks for the info though
Charles[/QUOTE]

Charles, I can relate to the sausage. Pork has always been my favorite meat, but is now a fond and distant memory! BTW, I am fortunate that I can purchase a 90-day supply of allopurinol for $10.00. May you soon have many pain-free days and nights.
 
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Wish I could help you out Chazz...I can only send you prayers and wishes of prompt healing......here's to them helping!!!!





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Originally posted by Patsy Elmore:
If you will Google Mayo Clinic, you get a lot of information about gout.. My boss had a flare up and it was extremely painful for him..


Mmmm ... mayo ... mmmm ... but like, with chicken and lettuce on wholegrain ... mmmm ... Big Grin


Good on you guys for sharing such practical advice and help for Charles. It certainly is a cruel disease. I remember my brother's pain years ago and, yes, I remember the social stigma that goes with the misconception that gout is somehow purely a function of over-indulgence which is simply not true.

Charles, I am horrified at the thought of having to shell out $78 a month for one medicine. Over the last fifteen years I have had to consume handsful of anti-depressants, mood stabilizers and some tranquilizers in very large doses. Fortunately, here in Australia, the vast majority of prescription drugs are covered by a government subsidy as part of a program of our public health insurance that is free to every citizen and permanent resident, so I have never had to pay more than $32 for any prescription no matter how large nor how regular the dose. Of course, depression and anxiety disorder bring their own load of social stigma and I used to do almost anything rather than admit that I had a problem with them but, hey! do I really care about personal dignity? The good news is that, through very hard work with Cognitive Behaviour Therapy in correcting my subconscious destructive and negative thinking patterns, I ma now well and truly in remission and have even stopped taking any medication ... and one day I'll let my doctor in on that decision ...

I guess we all do have to watch our diets, June. I find it easy to watch mine because the food just lies there on the plate and is pretty easy to keep an eye on! Big Grin

As for breakfast, Charles, I was lectured and lectured by my doctor about the importance of a good breakfast. "Breakfast is the most important meal of the day!" he would declare. (He said a lot of other stuff but he's a very boring individual and my eyes always glaze over in his presence and I do my impersonation of Homer Simpson.) Anyhow, in acknowledgement of the assertion that breakfast is so important, I figure it deserves the very best. Hence, I start the day with a very strong double-shot long black espresso coffee, occasionally accompanied with a slice of toast and very bitter orange marmalade. On very special occasions, when the doctor's admonitions resound in my memory and when I have more than a minute or two to spare before hitting the day running, I might add a bowl of Coco Pops in a small amount of milk. After all, one must put quality fuel in the tank if one wants the machine to work properly! Big Grin

I hasten to point out that in my comments above, I have not been deliberately callous or uncaring. I was making an effort to provide a little humour and light-heartedness in a situation that must be so physically and psychologically painful and frustrating for you, Charles. I definitely care about your situation, mate, and am not seeking to diminish concern for you. To quote Jack Handey, "My father always said that laughter was the best medicine! ... which is why, I guess, so many of us kids died of tuberculosis and other preventible diseases". Big Grin

I really hope you can find a balance of foods, water intake, medication and so on to bring you some much needed relief from your debilitating symptoms, mate.


Your mate in The Land Down Under,

Grahame.

Carpé diem "y'all"!

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My husband has bouts of it from time to time...and even the meds don't always help. June is so right...find out what triggers it and avoid it as much as possible! Take care, Chazz....hope you are feeling better by now.


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Originally posted by Grahame Edwards:
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Originally posted by Patsy Elmore:
If you will Google Mayo Clinic, you get a lot of information about gout.. My boss had a flare up and it was extremely painful for him..


Mmmm ... mayo ... mmmm ... but like, with chicken and lettuce on wholegrain ... mmmm ... Big Grin


Good on you guys for sharing such practical advice and help for Charles. It certainly is a cruel disease. I remember my brother's pain years ago and, yes, I remember the social stigma that goes with the misconception that gout is somehow purely a function of over-indulgence which is simply not true.

Charles, I am horrified at the thought of having to shell out $78 a month for one medicine. Over the last fifteen years I have had to consume handsful of anti-depressants, mood stabilizers and some tranquilizers in very large doses. Fortunately, here in Australia, the vast majority of prescription drugs are covered by a government subsidy as part of a program of our public health insurance that is free to every citizen and permanent resident, so I have never had to pay more than $32 for any prescription no matter how large nor how regular the dose. Of course, depression and anxiety disorder bring their own load of social stigma and I used to do almost anything rather than admit that I had a problem with them but, hey! do I really care about personal dignity? The good news is that, through very hard work with Cognitive Behaviour Therapy in correcting my subconscious destructive and negative thinking patterns, I ma now well and truly in remission and have even stopped taking any medication ... and one day I'll let my doctor in on that decision ...

I guess we all do have to watch our diets, June. I find it easy to watch mine because the food just lies there on the plate and is pretty easy to keep an eye on! Big Grin

As for breakfast, Charles, I was lectured and lectured by my doctor about the importance of a good breakfast. "Breakfast is the most important meal of the day!" he would declare. (He said a lot of other stuff but he's a very boring individual and my eyes always glaze over in his presence and I do my impersonation of Homer Simpson.) Anyhow, in acknowledgement of the assertion that breakfast is so important, I figure it deserves the very best. Hence, I start the day with a very strong double-shot long black espresso coffee, occasionally accompanied with a slice of toast and very bitter orange marmalade. On very special occasions, when the doctor's admonitions resound in my memory and when I have more than a minute or two to spare before hitting the day running, I might add a bowl of Coco Pops in a small amount of milk. After all, one must put quality fuel in the tank if one wants the machine to work properly! Big Grin

I hasten to point out that in my comments above, I have not been deliberately callous or uncaring. I was making an effort to provide a little humour and light-heartedness in a situation that must be so physically and psychologically painful and frustrating for you, Charles. I definitely care about your situation, mate, and am not seeking to diminish concern for you. To quote Jack Handey, "My father always said that laughter was the best medicine! ... which is why, I guess, so many of us kids died of tuberculosis and other preventible diseases". Big Grin

I really hope you can find a balance of foods, water intake, medication and so on to bring you some much needed relief from your debilitating symptoms, mate.


Lol thanks Grahame for the kind wishes, and I enjoy your posts....When I told my parents i wanted to be a comedian, they just laughed at me Big Grin


 
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Originally posted by junebug:
Thanks Patsy, I'll look into it, very thoughtful and kind of you. I'm looking into all the things I'm not supposed to have now, including breafast, SIGH no more biscuits and gravy, as it has three trigger foods,(bread, gravy, and sausage) Depressed already LOL

Thanks for the info though
Charles


Charles, I can relate to the sausage. Pork has always been my favorite meat, but is now a fond and distant memory! BTW, I am fortunate that I can purchase a 90-day supply of allopurinol for $10.00. May you soon have many pain-free days and nights.[/QUOTE]
Thanks so much for the well wishes, went to work today, and although a bit stiff, was able to walk without the cane, and I SLOSH when i walk LOL from all the water intake. All my other meds are reasonable with my insurance, but wow, I'll just have to stay on probenecid for now, it's only 10 a month. There is a little stigma to telling someone you have gout, because, as I work in a grocery store and folks see me limping I have to invariable answer the question, "what happened" sometimes it's tempting to say "old football injury" but as I grow older I just tell the truth LOL, it skipped a generation with me, my granfather had it, but not my father. Funny story, as you probably know what the main side effect of taking colchicine is, try having that side effect and not being able to walk fast!!!!! Big Grin Big Grin


 
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Wish I could help you out Chazz...I can only send you prayers and wishes of prompt healing......here's to them helping!!!!


thanks jim, sometimes that's the best medicine of all!

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Lol thanks Grahame for the kind wishes, and I enjoy your posts....When I told my parents i wanted to be a comedian, they just laughed at me



Now, that shows just how cruel and ironic life can be, mate!


Your mate in The Land Down Under,

Grahame.

Carpé diem "y'all"!

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Yes, Grahame, Mayo is GOOD.. But Mayo Clinic would probably help more for this!!! Big Grin (WHY do I always love the bad stuff over the good stuff??? WHY is the bad stuff usually bad for you and the good stuff is good for you!! MAKES NO SENSE!!! LOL)




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